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		<title>When Fraud or Extortion Happens to Innkeepers and TripAdvisor is Used as the Weapon</title>
		<link>http://www.innkeepingblog.com/2010/09/when-fraud-or-extortion-happens-to-innkeepers-and-tripadvisor-is-used-as-the-weapon/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two times this week I have been contacted by innkeepers who were threatened or potentially threatened with fraudulent reviews to extort money or to inflict damage.
One innkeeper wrote to me the following:
I am having job performance issues with my college student &#8211; he perceives that the problem is me and not his job performance.  He [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two times this week I have been contacted by innkeepers who were threatened or potentially threatened with fraudulent reviews to extort money or to inflict damage.</p>
<p>One innkeeper wrote to me the following:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I am having job performance issues with my college student &#8211; he perceives that the problem is me and not his job performance.  He relayed to another staff member (how do they think I won&#8217;t find out?) that his friends said he should go on TripAdvisor and pretend to write a review as a guest and make a comment that they liked everything about the inn, except how the owner treated her employees.</p>
<p>Another innkeeper told me that one of his guests stayed for a few nights and said she suffered several bed bug bites during her stay.  To make a long story short, they had the inn inspected for evidence of bed bugs (and they do wrap their mattresses), and there was no evidence.  The guest mentioned the possibility of writing a review on TripAdvisor about it, before she requested a full refund for her stay.  The innkeeper naturally doesn&#8217;t want to give in (and does not plan to).</p>
<p>We’ve known for a long time that people have been using TripAdvisor as a weapon in certain circumstances.  The most common one I’ve heard about is when guests want to cancel towards the last minute, but they don’t want to pay the agreed-upon cancellation fee.  If the innkeeper holds true to the policy, the guests get upset and threaten a negative review on TripAdvisor if they don’t get their deposit back.  This is despicable and unscrupulous in my humble opinion, but it happens.  Because the system does not verify the veracity of this guest (Did he actually make a reservation?  Did he stay there?  Who knows?), and because reviewers can remain anonymous, reviewers have the upper hand in these unfortunate situations – a true weakness in today’s online review systems.  When I’ve told stories like this to my contacts at TripAdvisor in the past, they seem genuine in their desire to fight fraud.  After all, their system becomes less valuable as more fraud gets into the database of reviews.  They have automated tools that can detect some of it, but the rest is left to human interpretation of the event as explained by the reviewer and rebutted by the innkeeper.</p>
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<p>But what can one do if there is an imminent case of fraud and the innkeeper is aware of this?  Report it.  Use TripAdvisor’s online communication tool for owners to let them know what is happening.  That way, if the fraudulent review subsequently shows up, innkeepers have at least already alerted TripAdvisor.  Hopefully, this alert will serve as evidence in the dispute, if a dispute arises.<br />
TripAdvisor staff has told me that if someone threatens to write a fraudulent review or one that is supposed to extort money out of the innkeeper, that you should try to let them know of this threat.  Use TripAdvisor’s online system to report this in advance.  Here is the URL for reporting fraud: <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/help/how_can_owners_alert_ta_to_potential_fraud">http://www.tripadvisor.com/help/how_can_owners_alert_ta_to_potential_fraud</a></p>
<p>Follow the links until you get to the &#8220;Manage your listing&#8221; tab (upper right) on the Owner&#8217;s Center page for your inn.  Under that tab, there is a &#8220;Manage reviews&#8221; section, and under that section is a link for &#8220;Report problem with review.&#8221;  When you click on that link, you are asked to register as the owner.  If you can log in with your TripAdvisor username and password, you should be able to get to an online form to let TripAdvisor know what&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>Be sure to explain all the details you have at your disposal to prepare for the unscrupulous reviewer.  There is no guarantee that you will win your case, but no innkeeper should wilt or sit idly by when extortion or fraud is happening.</p>
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		<title>About-Face on BedandBreakfast.com Policy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so I have to confess about something.  Everyone who knows me and PAII also knows that you would be hard-pressed to find someone more out front than moi with regard to representing the B&#38;B industry&#8217;s interest on most matters &#8211; especially the phenomenon of online consumer reviews.  Two years ago I engaged our industry [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so I have to confess about something.  Everyone who knows me and PAII also knows that you would be hard-pressed to find someone more out front than moi with regard to representing the B&amp;B industry&#8217;s interest on most matters &#8211; especially the phenomenon of online consumer reviews.  Two years ago I engaged our industry in the discussion and began &#8220;lobbying&#8221; various entities (i.e. TripAdvisor, Yelp, etc) for changes I felt were needed.  At the same time, I brought up a criticism to BedandBreakfast.com&#8217;s top brass, Eric Goldreyer and John Banczak, about their review policies.  We were actually having drinks in the historic Driskill Hotel in Austin, just blocks from their office, having pretty lengthy and serious discussion about many matters.</p>
<p>My criticism at the time was this:  I did not particularly like the fact that they required a guest to furnish proof of stay when wanting to post a negative review about a B&amp;B, but didn&#8217;t necessarily require it of those wanting to write a positive review.  While I realize this was an &#8220;innkeeper friendly&#8221; policy, and noted that they aimed to please innkeepers, but felt in the long run it might be a disservice.   My concern was two fold.  First, I felt it in someway violated the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of Web 2.0.  Why treat one guest differently than another?  Web 2.0 is supposed to be this great &#8220;democratization&#8221; of web content, right?  But I was also concerned that their site would be filled almost exclusively with positive reviews, because it was more difficult to post a negative review.  Who was going to spend time digging up a receipt or other form of proof of stay?  If guests browsing the site only saw positive reviews everywhere, when they anticipated encountering a spectrum of reviews, they might not consider the review portion of BedandBreakfast.com very legitimate.</p>
<p>After a couple of years of hindsight and speaking or emailing with hundreds of innkeepers on the topic of online reviews, I think requiring proof of stay when wanting to post a negative review is a good policy, simply because the damage that a false negative review can cause is too detrimental.  I think the online review phenomenon is certainly a net-positive for our industry &#8211; no question about it.  But when transgressions can be prevented, they should be prevented.  Innkeepers work too hard to fall victim to fraudulent, false reviews.  Maybe I was thinking as much as a consumer as an industry representative&#8230;concerned that I wouldn&#8217;t see negative reviews that might have made it to the site if it weren&#8217;t for a restrictive procedure.</p>
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<p>I understand the challenges that TripAdvisor would face if they started requiring proof of stay for any negative reviews, since there are over 50,000 hotels and 19,000 B&amp;Bs on their site.  They would have to add a heck of a lot of staff to verify the negative reviewers; and even then the system would not be foolproof.  A challenge, indeed.</p>
<p>Maybe what the NFL is doing at www.nfl.com is a happy medium.  If the buyer actually bought the product (i.e. a Philadelphia Eagles jersey) from their site, then the site indicates the reviewer is a &#8220;Verified Buyer.&#8221;  People can still review an NFL product, but if they didn&#8217;t buy through NFL, then the &#8220;Verified Buyer&#8221; badge is omitted.  I like this, because as a consumer I can choose to read only the Verified Buyer reviews&#8230;or all of them.  The verification adds legitimacy to those reviews, and that&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>In the end, the B&amp;B has everything to lose and the reviewer has nothing to lose.  So, it&#8217;s a good thing to offer some protections to those who have everything to lose.</p>
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		<title>TripAdvisor Update</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As most PAII members and blog followers know, for nearly two years I have been meeting with TripAdvisor about the B&#38;B industry’s issues with their web site.  With tens of millions of visitors each month, there has been no question about the importance of their system to even the smallest B&#38;Bs around the continent and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.innkeepingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/TripAdvisor-Logo.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-410" title="TripAdvisor Logo" src="http://www.innkeepingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/TripAdvisor-Logo.jpg" alt="" width="149" height="88" /></a>As most PAII members and blog followers know, for nearly two years I have been meeting with TripAdvisor about the B&amp;B industry’s issues with their web site.  With tens of millions of visitors each month, there has been no question about the importance of their system to even the smallest B&amp;Bs around the continent and beyond.  It is in our industry’s interest that I meet with them and share our perspective on a host of issues.  I met with senior members of their team on May 20<sup>th</sup> at their offices outside Boston, and here is my “brief” report on the issues we discussed.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the issues below represent a portion of the ongoing matters we discuss.  There are some larger issues at play (i.e. not requiring proof of stay from the reviewer when an innkeeper protests a fraudulent review) that we will often discuss, but the list I try to bring to the table involves impactful issues that I think could be changed in the near or foreseeable future, if our case is compelling enough.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Availability Search</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue:</strong></p>
<p>95% of B&amp;B/Inns don’t offer online inventory to TA’s commerce partners.  It’s likely a lot of people use the availability search tool when doing a <em>generic</em> search.  Travelers will see 0% of B&amp;B/Inns available in nearly 100% of search results – leads them to think no B&amp;B/Inns are really available, since they may not be aware it is both date-sensitive and only shows properties with inventory on sites like Expedia.  People see TripAdvisor as a site for ALL properties, not just those paying to provide online availability.  It’s not intuitive for people to click the “Not confirmed” radio button to see all B&amp;B/Inns regardless of availability.  It appears that all Vacation Rentals appear, even though availability is not confirmed.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion:</strong></p>
<p>Treat B&amp;B/Inns the same as you do Vacation Rentals. Allow the traveler to “Contact Manager” to inquire about availability.  Or change the “Confirmed v. Not Confirmed” language to something more indicative of the true availability situation.  Or build an API integration with B&amp;B availability systems to capture availability data.</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong></p>
<p>TA reps acknowledged this is an issue, but they also said that those who show up in the availability search results are paying a premium (through commissions to Expedia, Hotels.com, etc).  On one hand, I get their point.  Those who pay more, get more.  But, when 95% of an industry is left out, there should be a solution.  We discussed the possibility of bridging their availability system with systems that aggregate B&amp;B availability data (i.e. RezStream, Webervations, RezOvation, SuperInn, Reservation Nexus, Availability Online, BookingCenter, Innkeepers Advantage, etc.) and bypass the GDS platform.  It wouldn’t necessarily be a live booking opportunity, but rather a sharing of availability data, so that most B&amp;Bs with available rooms would show up in the results set.  The guest could contact the innkeeper directly to make a booking.  The TA staff is interested in this idea; their CEO said the same at our New England conference last fall.  No promises on this one, but this may be discussed behind closed doors at their HQ in the coming weeks.  There certainly has to be a good business case for it, and I’m quite confident one could be made.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">“Map this Hotel” Link</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>This link on most B&amp;B/Inn pages leads to an Expedia map that doesn’t show the B&amp;B/Inn property anywhere on a map. The B&amp;B/Inn only shows if that property happens to give inventory to Expedia.  This might be about 5% of all B&amp;B/Inns. Using the “Map this Hotel” is “bait and switch” for 95% of B&amp;B/Inns.  And, it’s a bad customer experience.  They’re expecting to see a map of that B&amp;B/Inn.  Another strange thing is that some properties have the link at the top, and others don’t.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion: </strong></p>
<p>Any one of a few options are better for both the property and the visitor.</p>
<ol>
<li>Make it much more obvious on this map where the property in question is actually located.</li>
<li>If they’re not on Expedia, show a Google map instead when the link is clicked.</li>
<li>Omit the link altogether if the property is not offering inventory on Expedia, and omit the “bait and switch.”</li>
<li>Change name of link to something more accurate, such as “Map of Area.”</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Update: </strong></p>
<p>While I was at the office, I had their team click on the link to show what I was talking about.  We discovered that there was not even a crosshair symbol to mark where the address in question was, which used to be the case.  So, the Map this Link feature is useless and misleading for B&amp;B/Inns that are not on Expedia.  To their credit, they said they would look into this, because it’s not a good user experience.  But, some form of a map that shows nearby properties on sites like Expedia will likely remain because it’s a revenue source.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Average Price per Night Display</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>Some B&amp;B/Inns display an average rate, and others do not.  Oftentimes the average rate displayed is incorrect by a large margin.  This misinformation could cause some properties to lose business.  There has never been a clear answer on how an innkeeper can get this information corrected, if it’s wrong.  Why does it show on some B&amp;B/Inns, but not others?</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion: </strong></p>
<p>Only display if it’s a real-time feed from live inventory information.  Or, allow innkeepers to edit the price – they’ll always want it to be accurate.  Or display as a price range – many inns have both inexpensive and expensive rooms.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong></p>
<p>This is an area that still seems to be a bit cloudy.  If a property is engaging in commerce with an online commerce partner (like Expedia), the system pulls data into TA that reveals an average of prices being offered on those sites – in one fashion or another.  Again, this is still a bit confusing to me.  If you do not provide live data to a commerce partner, then some third-party system is able to find your rates (maybe scanned on your availability calendars?) and averaged for your TA listing.  Then there are some properties that don’t show any average rate.  I’m not sure anything will be changed about this.  If an innkeeper finds the displayed rate is way off, they can contact TA for a fix.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Missing B&amp;B/Inn Reviews</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>On “Tourism Pages” and attraction pages (“Things to Do”), only hotel reviews are displayed on the “Recently Reviewed” box on the left bar.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion: </strong></p>
<p>Include B&amp;B/Inns wherever there is a collection of reviews of lodging properties.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong></p>
<p>I was wrong.  There is a formula used for displaying hotel or B&amp;B/Inn reviews in these boxes.  In cities where B&amp;B/Inns outnumber hotels, you’re more likely going to see B&amp;B/Inn reviews than hotel reviews.  I must have been testing the site in cities where hotels far outnumber B&amp;B/Inns.  So, they’ve taken into account the local ratio of B&amp;Bs-to-hotels for this, which is good.  They do the same for the “Top Rate” hotels and B&amp;Bs on Tourism Pages.  In cities where B&amp;B/Inns outnumber hotels, “Top Rated B&amp;Bs/Inns” show before “Top Rated Hotels.”  This makes for a better user experience, because users are more likely looking for a B&amp;B/Inn in those cities.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ubiquitous Use of “Hotels”</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>The word “hotels” is used throughout the site as the least common denominator term for all kinds of lodging. B&amp;B/Inns are not hotels, but we are found only behind the word “hotels.”  It puts first in the mind of the traveler to consider or only look for hotels.  An innkeeper summed it up well in an email to me:</p>
<p>A bed and breakfast is not a hotel, and should never be confused as one.  A hotel has an operator and front desk that is open 24/7, a bed and breakfast does not.  A hotel always accepts walk-in customers at any hour of the day or not, a bed and breakfast does not.  A hotel may offer a “breakfast buffet or breakfast bar”, a bed and breakfast offers gourmet meals prepared fresh each morning.  Whenever I get a call late at night and I am feeling generous by offering to get out of bed to accommodate a guest, I am usually rewarded by preparing a breakfast for people who decide they would rather sleep in.  What’s more is that my rates reflect the extra work and amenities I provide.  I constantly get phone calls from guests concerned only with the price.  When I try to explain that a bed and breakfast is, by nature, not a hotel, I am informed that I should not be listed under hotels.  So, long story short, it would be helpful if TripAdvisor did not list my property in a way that misleads the customer.  It is a disservice to me and a disservice to the customer.</p>
<p>Another innkeeper said:</p>
<p>We send a follow-up message to every guest and in it put a request that they place a review on TripAdvisor and/or BedandBreakfast.com.  I can&#8217;t tell you the number of people who tell us<em> &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know you could review B&amp;B&#8217;s on Trip Advisor, I thought it was only for Hotels.&#8221;</em> The majority of these folks are from the over 50 generation who aren&#8217;t as computer literate as the younger folks and won&#8217;t go past the first page to find out that B&amp;Bs are listed and reviewable.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion: </strong></p>
<p>Use Accommodations, Lodging or Hotels/B&amp;B/Inns instead.  Or, add “B&amp;B/Inns” to the top and side bars where “Hotels” and “Vacation Rentals” are shown.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong></p>
<p>This might be a losing battle, folks.  The TA staff say that “hotels” is an overall much better term for generic lodging searches.  They say it translates better for the international crowd.  And, TA is heavily into the SEO game and seem to have their site optimized around the term “hotels.”  Maybe rather than asking them to change the ubiquitous term, they should consider getting “B&amp;Bs/Inns” listed beside “Hotels” and “Vacation Rentals” on some of the prime real estate areas of their site.  We’re listed side-by-side once someone hits the “Hotels” link for a particular city, but to get more people thinking about B&amp;B/Inns as a legitimate FIRST option, rather than a SECONDARY option, we should be seen more easily.  More innkeepers would likely patronize TA’s Business Listings program, if we were brought out of the woodwork.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Not All Reviewers are the Same</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>Someone who didn’t stay at a property can review elements such as cleanliness, rooms, sleep quality and value.  Doesn’t seem fair to the property owner, because it likely impacts their rating/scores on TripAdvisor.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion:</strong></p>
<p>Ask the question “Did you stay here?”  If the answer is no, remove part of the survey that only someone who stayed there would have experienced.</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong></p>
<p>The TA technical staff that was at our meeting liked my approach to this issue.  He said it made a lot of sense and would talk to his folks more about it.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Dates of Stay and Review Gap</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>TripAdvisor currently allows people to leave reviews up to three years between date of stay and date of review.  There are two problems with posting a review of an experience that was long ago. First, allowing such a gap between stay and review will allow for more inaccurate reviews. When the moniker says, “Reviews you can trust,” how trustworthy can someone’s memory be 36 months later?  Secondly, reviews of old stays shouldn’t be seen as “new” reviews. Currently, the new review will automatically be listed chronologically by date of review, NOT date of stay, so it could come up first on the list. A visitor to the site might easily mistake it as a review of a recent stay, if he or she doesn’t pay close attention and find the “date of stay” information.   Anyone who takes time to author a review 3 years after they stayed is likely either on a vendetta or is being asked to stack the deck.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion: </strong></p>
<p>When someone leaves a review today of a stay from 8 months ago, the review should automatically be listed in chronological order by date of stay – not date of review. Limit the time delay between a date of stay and date of review to one year.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong></p>
<p>Their technical folks said they would look into making the date of stay more obvious on the review.  Sounds like they might not be interested in changing this particular policy.  They couldn’t confirm or deny if a recent review of an old stay was treated like a new review or old review when it comes to the algorithm used for the Popularity Index.   They did counter my hypothesis that anyone writing a review today of a stay 2 years ago was on the attack with the possibility that maybe the guest wants to share a story about a fantastic stay.  True.  Nevertheless, even though I don’t think it’s a big issue for B&amp;B/Inns or hotels, I think the gap should be shortened even more.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Business Listings</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>The hyperlink, which costs between $300 and $500 this year with various discounts ($600 &#8211; $1,000 next year?) is a “no-follow” link, meaning the innkeeper gets no SEO help from the link.  Some internet marketers in our industry will tell innkeepers that if the link was a “follow” link, the annual price might be worth it, even if no one clicks on it, simply for the “link juice” from such a well-ranked site.  On the same token, the widgets and badges TripAdvisor wants B&amp;B/Inns to use on their web sites have“follow” links back to TripAdvisor, and won’t work if you try making them “no-follow.”  Meaning, TA is getting “link juice” from you by you having the widgets on your site.  Even with this, I still like seeing TA and BedandBreakfast.com widgets on B&amp;B web sites.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion: </strong></p>
<p>Remove “no follow” from hyperlink code.  Earn some goodwill.  No other paid listing services in our industry have “no-follow” links.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong></p>
<p>No changes are likely on this one, at least in the short term.  TA competes with the very properties on their site in the SEO world.  For example, if you search for “Swiss Woods B&amp;B” on Google, of course the Swiss Woods web site is ranked first in the organic listings.  But not far below it is the TA page for Swiss Woods, right there on page 1.  Obviously TA is hoping people will click on their link too, if not instead.   I don’t necessarily hold a grudge against them for this; after all, their business was partly built on successful SEO implementation.  Nevertheless, I wonder how negatively their SEO strategy vis-à-vis small B&amp;B properties would really be impacted by taking the “no follow” code out of these links.  I don’t think there would be any noticeable impact.  As TA continues to press our industry to get on the Business Listings train (which PAII has promoted this year in a 50% deal with TA, and TA continues to advertise the program through our web site and email newsletters), finding more ways to increase the value of the paid listing will be important.  They are adding value to the program in other ways, which is great, so maybe this won’t be much of an issue in the long run.  Nevertheless, I’m not sure the folks at TA saw this one coming.  Despite this issue, I still think the Business Listings program is worth signing up for this year and capturing traffic that might have left your TA listing and not returned.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Star Rating</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>Some B&amp;B/Inns have a star rating next to their name, and some don’t.  There is no explanation as to what this means, except for it saying “Hotel Class” on the property page (but not on the listings page).  Is it quality?  What criteria is used?  This could certainly be misleading, when everything else around them on this page hints to either user ratings or scoring.  Everyone sitting around our table knew that the star rating has to do with the type of property and services offered – not quality.  For example, a 3-star property (which most B&amp;B/Inns are) do not have restaurants, but 4-star properties do.  And since everything around the page has to do with quality or ratings (the reviews, scores, Traveler Rating, Popularity Index, etc.), it is easy to see why someone might think that a particular B&amp;B/Inn is ranked 3 out of 5 stars based on scores and ratings.  It is confusing and possibly misleading.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion: </strong></p>
<p>Remove it for B&amp;B/Inns (it seems only about 1 in 20 or so have the stars), or have a quick, accessible link to explain what it means.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong></p>
<p>The TA staff said they would look into somehow adding an explanation on their site about the “Hotel Class” system.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Do reviews marked as “helpful” get more weight in the Popularity Index?</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Issue: </strong></p>
<p>A question was recently brought to me – do negative reviews get marked as “helpful” more often by travelers than positive reviews?  TA allows travelers to rate other reviews as “helpful,” and you can see how often a particular review has been rated as such.  My instinct tells me that negative reviews are more often rated as “helpful,” because these reviews more likely reveal information about an experience that helped other travelers in their research, and maybe ultimately avoid a property.  Positive reviews might provide details that are similarly found in other positive reviews, i.e. the breakfast was great, the beds were comfy, etc.  I suppose for highly-ranked properties on TA, travelers expect to see such comments, thereby rendering those reviews as not as helpful as the occasional negative review.  This in itself is not really much of an issue, except when I place it in the context of the Popularity Index, which has a complicated, secret formula behind it.  I wondered out loud to the TA staff if reviews that are rated as “helpful” by more travelers weigh more in the algorithm of their Popularity Index.</p>
<p><strong>Suggestion:</strong></p>
<p>Because negative reviews might be more often ranked as “helpful”, don’t allow the “helpful” count to impact the Popularity Index.  If it does, then it stands to reason that negative reviews might be more impactful on the Popularity Index than positive reviews.</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong></p>
<p>This was a new one to the TA staff, so they didn’t have much of a response.  Plus, when it comes to the Popularity Index, they are often tight-lipped.   I asked if they could do a little internal research to find out if in fact within the total count of reviews that were rated as “helpful”, if the negative reviews are more often rated as “helpful” than positive reviews.  I don’t think this is a major issue, but you can possibly see why a helpful, negative review could be quite damaging.  And, since false or embellished negative reviews can still get past their fraud detectors, it’s important to keep tabs on these kinds of things.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Conclusion</span></strong></p>
<p>Well folks, that’s it for now.  I continue to give the staff at TA a lot of credit for having spent several half-days with me going over our laundry list of issues.  Over time, they have made some changes and always earnestly listen to what we have to say.  In order to stay relevant to both their traveler base and the property owners, they have to be ever-changing, ever-improving.  I like to think of our little visits as helping them in that quest, but at the same time bringing as much parity to B&amp;B/Inns as possible.</p>
<p>They have recently restructured some of their internal teams, so that property owners will get more dedicated staff for their needs and interests, as well (I imagine) to solicit more participation in Business Listings.  This is good; they realize more and more the importance of keeping the property owners happy.  If innkeepers are happy, they are probably more likely to use and promote TA in their marketing strategies.  The more our industry is seen as a both a strong segment of the lodging universe, as well as a revenue source in their business model, the more important our meetings will become.</p>
<p>There is a reason you see TripAdvisor at the Innkeeping conferences and trade shows, advertising their services in our magazine, etc.  They deem B&amp;B/Inns and innkeepers as an important customer base.  Therefore, our dialogue will continue and I’m guessing you’ll see many more changes as the months and years come.</p>
<p>Not a member of PAII?  I encourage you to join and support the association and our efforts.  We&#8217;re the only association, as far as I know, as deeply committed to working with entities like TripAdvisor on behalf of the B&amp;B industry.  Your support is vital, and we deliver a fantastic portfolio of benefits and education in return.  Go to <a href="http://www.innkeeping.org">www.innkeeping.org</a> to learn more.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently some changes were being tested on TripAdvisor’s “Tourism Pages” and it seemed there was a threat that B&#38;Bs would be obscured on these all-important pages.  Tourism Pages (or city pages, as I like to call them) are where many travelers go to learn about a destination – many times before even thinking about where [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.innkeepingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Cape-May2.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-364" title="Cape May2" src="http://www.innkeepingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Cape-May2-300x265.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="265" /></a>Recently some changes were being tested on TripAdvisor’s “Tourism Pages” and it seemed there was a threat that B&amp;Bs would be obscured on these all-important pages.  Tourism Pages (or city pages, as I like to call them) are where many travelers go to learn about a destination – many times before even thinking about where they’re going to stay.  I had a recent fantasy of taking my wife to Cinque Terre, Italy, (after a great recommendation to go there from the fantastic innkeeper at <a href="http://www.akwaaba.com/washington_dc/index.html"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Akwaaba D</span>C</a>, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/kristin.janine.singleton">Kristin Singleton</a></span>), and I started my homework on Cinque Terre on TripAdvisor.  The Tourism Page is where I started my homework.  I imagine a lot of travelers do the same, although I’m sure many already know about your inn and go directly to TripAdvisor to read reviews.  Nevertheless, exposure for B&amp;Bs on the Tourism Pages is very important, which is why some innkeepers reported concern that “Top-Rated B&amp;Bs” were disappearing from some Tourism Pages.  Only “Top-Rated Hotels” were showing.  This was all during what appeared to be some beta testing by TripAdvisor, because it was happening in some cities, but not others.</p>
<p>TripAdvisor started to hear the complaints right away from innkeepers.  Our <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.innkeeping.org/forums/">Innkeeping Forum</a></span> was buzzing with discussion, and some innkeepers were encouraging folks to start a campaign to get as many innkeepers as possible to submit grievances.  And this was all happening at the same time TripAdvisor was offering a 50% off deal to innkeepers on their relatively new Business Listings program.  You can read all about that <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.innkeeping.org/?TABizListings">here</a></span>, but the gist is – pay an annual fee and have your phone, email and web link added to your TripAdvisor property page.  Innkeepers on the fence about Business Listings were scratching their heads – why pay for Business Listings if B&amp;Bs can’t be readily found on the Tourism Pages like they had been for years?</p>
<p>I give credit to TripAdvisor.  They have some senior staff who are involved with PAII.  Brian Payea, their Trade Relations Manager, pops in from time-to-time on our forum to offer innkeepers advice, clear up misunderstandings and to announce things like the changes made earlier this week to the Tourism Pages.  They listen to what innkeepers have to say.  I’ve been meeting with them regularly for nearly two years, and they’ve always been willing to listen – and have made some improvements to their site based on our ongoing dialogue.  So, what changes were made this week?  First of all, “Top-Rated B&amp;Bs” are back on the pages.  Thank you, TripAdvisor!  Furthermore, if you go to a Tourism Page that has more B&amp;Bs than hotels, you’ll notice that “Top-Rated B&amp;B”s are shown above “Top-Rated Hotels.”  This makes good sense for the web site visitor, because if they’re checking out a town with more B&amp;Bs than hotels, they’re probably more interested in B&amp;Bs.  This is TripAdvisor’s way of improving the experience for the web site visitor.  When doing homework on <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g46341-Cape_May_New_Jersey-Vacations.html">Cape May, New Jersey</a></span>, it makes good sense to showcase the B&amp;Bs first.</p>
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<p>On Tourism Pages where hotels outnumber B&amp;Bs, like <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g60798-Gettysburg_Pennsylvania-Vacations.html">Gettysburg, Pennsylvania</a></span>,“Top-Rated Hotels” are displayed above “Top-Rated B&amp;Bs.”  No problem with that, since the B&amp;Bs are back on the page.</p>
<p>For towns where there are a small handful of total properties (B&amp;Bs and hotels), like <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g53046-Lititz_Lancaster_County_Pennsylvania-Vacations.html">Lititz, Pennsylvania</a></span>, they have co-mingled both types of properties under “Top-Rated Accommodations.”  I think this is a great improvement too, because you’re going to find that B&amp;Bs are generally better rated than hotels, and this allows these properties to shine.  It makes sense too.  If you have a town with one decent hotel, two bad motels and one really good B&amp;B, this allows the right property to be seen as an attractive option stacked against others.</p>
<p>Knowing the 50% off Business Listings promotion that TripAdvisor has been running with PAII comes to an end on May 8, the questions have been coming in at a faster pace – is it worth the money?  I spoke at the <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.njinns.com/">Preferred Inns of New Jersey</a></span> meeting yesterday and <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.minnesotabedandbreakfasts.org/">the Minnesota B&amp;B Association</a></span> conference on Monday and Tuesday this week – it was a popular question among attendees.  With only about 3 months of hindsight (Business Listings launched in January), it’s a tough question to answer with absolute authority.  Based on what I’ve heard from innkeepers who are tracking the traffic from their new links and my own opinion – yes, I think it’s worth it.  And I think these changes to the Tourism Pages improve the investment, because B&amp;Bs have a better chance of shining brightly – especially where they likely deserve it.  Plus, the promotional pricing will not last long, so now is the best time to jump in with two feet.</p>
<p>Plus, TripAdvisor may soon be experiencing even more traffic, now that Facebook has integrated their new Open Graph program with TripAdvisor.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.tnooz.com/2010/04/22/news/facebook-dislike-anyone-tripadvisor-gets-in-on-the-like-craze/">Learn more about that here</a></span>.</p>
<p>If interested in signing up your B&amp;B for Business Listings, go to <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/BusinessListings">www.tripadvisor.com/BusinessListings</a> and use the coupon code &#8220;TRIPDISC&#8221; to get 50% off.</p>
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		<title>TripAdvisor Business Listings Promo Ends Soon for B&amp;B Industry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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Recently we announced a new partnership with TripAdvisor that allows only innkeepers in the B&#38;B industry to enjoy 50% off rack rate pricing for their Business Listings program.  In addition, those innkeepers who are not members of PAII who sign up during our promotion (ends April 8), will get a free Silver Membership in PAII [...]]]></description>
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<p>Recently we announced a new partnership with TripAdvisor that allows only innkeepers in the B&amp;B industry to enjoy 50% off rack rate pricing for their Business Listings program.  In addition, those innkeepers who are not members of PAII who sign up during our promotion (ends April 8), will get a free Silver Membership in PAII as an additional incentive.  TripAdvisor’s Business Listings program allows property owners to add their phone number, an email link and a link to their own property’s web site to their TripAdvisor property page.  This may seem like a minor addition to your TripAdvisor page, but it could be very meaningful in capturing bookings you otherwise might have lost.</p>
<p>Since announcing the promotion with TripAdvisor, the PAII office has fielded numerous questions.  I’m using my column this quarter to do a little Q&amp;A about the program and how this does or does not change the nature of our relationship with TripAdvisor.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Is this really worth it?</strong></span><br />
Especially in 2010, here’s why I think it is in fact worth the investment.  First and foremost, the price will double next year, so now is the time to give it a shot and test the effectiveness of having the added contact information and links on your TripAdvisor page – especially the direct link to your web site.  To that point, you invest a lot of your marketing energy and dollars in your own web site.  You want potential guests getting to your site as quickly as possible, so you have the best chance of keeping their interest high in your property.  And, you know you’re going to receive the highest possible net rate when people book directly with you.  It naturally follows that a visitor to your TripAdvisor page – if she likes what she sees – will have a better chance of making it to your own web site if a link is right there in front of her.  I call this the “stickiness factor,” meaning you want impressed TripAdvisor visitors to stick with you and not move on to check out the competition.  Also, with this new link, you can now start tracking the amount of traffic coming to your web site from your TripAdvisor page.  This doesn’t reveal how many people are viewing your TripAdvisor page, but it does tell you how strong of a referring site TripAdvisor might be.  We are hearing from many innkeepers that their TripAdvisor link is among their top referring links.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>How does it feel to now be in bed with TripAdvisor?</strong></span><br />
This one cracks me up a little, because if you know anything about running an international trade association, you know that we’re really in bed with EVERYONE in our industry!  I know that sounds a little absurd, but running an association is like running the United Nations.  While on one hand you have to be neutral territory for much that happens in our industry, the fact also is that everyone involved in our association is also our customer or member.  At the end of the day, our core constituency is the innkeeper who runs the inn, but we also work hard to nurture a vibrant marketplace where business can be conducted.  In that sense, we try bringing parties together to conduct business, but we also try negotiating advantages for both buyer and seller.  In that sense, we’re in bed with TripAdvisor as much as we’re in bed with other great vendors who have been involved with this industry for decades.  BUT… this partnership does NOT change the nature of PAII’s role as an advocate for innkeepers with regard to the policies and features of TripAdvisor’s web site.  I still have my laundry list of items I think need to change on their site, so that B&amp;Bs receive more appropriate levels of exposure (we’re often too hard to find), so that innkeepers have better help in getting grievances resolved, and that the policies they put forward are fair and not damaging to B&amp;Bs.  You all know I’ve been a tireless advocate for our industry, and the folks at TripAdvisor know that’s not going to change.  And here’s my little secret (shh…), now that the B&amp;B industry is a source of revenue for TripAdvisor, there is more incentive for our friends at TripAdvisor to keep listening to and responding to our needs.  It helps my cause when I travel to Boston to visit with their senior leadership!  I know for a fact (from personal emails I have received) that some innkeepers are vehement objectors to even the existence – let alone policies – of TripAdvisor and other review sites.  They are hoping that PAII will take a flamethrower to TripAdvisor, rather than come up with a promotion like this.  To those folks I say that my modus operandi will likely always be to work with a spirit of diplomacy, candor and forthrightness – with an eye always towards cooperation &#8211; with any entity that has a great impact on the business of innkeeping.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Will signing up for this impact my placement on TripAdvisor?</strong></span><br />
No.  Properties that sign up will not see any change to their Popularity Index ranking or any search results on your respective city pages.  TripAdvisor’s leadership has made it clear that Business Listings is a service enhancement only and does not impact any other aspect of your presence on the site.  Those who don’t sign up won’t be penalized.  Those who do sign up won’t have any advantage other than the benefits that come with having your phone, email and web link under your property’s name and picture – and as explained before, I think there are some distinct advantages.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Does this mean you favor TripAdvisor over the B&amp;B directories in our industry?</strong></span><br />
We favor working with any directory or other source of business that is going to have an impact on your business.  There is plenty of space on the web for more than one directory of B&amp;B properties and more than one place to leave and read reviews.  If we encountered any entity – including B&amp;B directories – that were having a negative impact on thousands of B&amp;Bs, we would be at their door lobbying for change.  Same goes for B&amp;B directories that are having a positive impact on thousands of inns and innkeepers – we seek and appreciate their involvement in PAII.  With 32 million unique visitors each month reading reviews of properties and clicking through to make bookings, working with TripAdvisor is good business for our industry.<br />
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Is there any other way to get people viewing my TripAdvisor page to MY web site, besides participating in Business Listings?</strong></span><br />
The only thing I can think of would be if you want to invest in sponsored links or display advertising on your own property page or on other areas of TripAdvisor.  Knowing what the average B&amp;B spends on marketing per year, this is probably way out of the question.  I think innkeepers should look at this much in the way you look at investing in some of the productive B&amp;B-specific directories in our industry.  In those cases, you want folks to find you and get to your web site as well (in some cases, you’re happy to have them book directly on those directories and not even get to your site, but that’s a different issue) – and you judge your investment in the annual dues by the level of traffic and bookings you can measure in return.  You should do the same here.  Of course, your TripAdvisor visitors could always just open a new browser and use a search engine to find your site – and we know this happens now when visitors like what they see in your reviews.  But taking that step out of the equation and letting them be one click away from your site is what you want.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>It seems that TripAdvisor’s availability search tool and some changes in the site’s layout are obscuring B&amp;Bs.   Why would I pay for this Business Listings if we’re going to continue to be hard to find?</strong></span><br />
My pursuit to ensure B&amp;Bs are conspicuous lodging options on TripAdvisor remains very important.  I agree it’s not where I would like it, and the folks at TripAdvisor are listening to our comments about the obscurity issue.  There is no question – from an economic standpoint – that if TripAdvisor expects the Business Listings program to be successful in the B&amp;B industry, that it would be counterintuitive to make it harder to find B&amp;Bs.  I would imagine TripAdvisor hopes your Business Listings becomes a top referring link.  To that end, it would be unwise to obscure B&amp;Bs – I know this, and so do they.  I don’t think their site designers are necessarily the same folks I always deal with, who understand the issues the B&amp;B industry has with the site.   There are specific changes I am suggesting to pull B&amp;Bs out of the woodwork – and soon I will visit their offices outside Boston to discuss them in detail.  I will give TripAdvisor credit for being great at listening to my many “suggestions,” and for making changes in the right direction with some of them.   That being said, the Business Listings program is still a business decision innkeepers should consider making, even though the site is not all that you want it to be.  I guess the question you should ask yourself is.. is the site good enough and important enough to warrant spending some money to add the ever-important contact information and link to your web site?</p>
<p>Innkeepers are discussing these and many other TripAdvisor-related issues on the forums at <a href="http://www.innkeeping.org" target="_blank">www.innkeeping.org</a>.  We encourage you to join the discussion.</p>
<p>If you’re ready to learn more or sign up for Business Listings at TripAdvisor and take advantage of the PAII-negotiated discount and free membership offer, <span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://innkeeping.site-ym.com/?TABizListings" target="_blank">click here</a></span></span>.  You&#8217;ll need to use the coupon code &#8220;TRIPDISC&#8221; to get the Silver Membership and/or the 50% off pricing.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 03:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the long post, but it&#8217;s been a while since I updated the innkeeping community on my discussions with TripAdvisor.  For those of you unaware of what PAII has been doing, I have been representing on behalf of innkeepers some requests for change on the TripAdvisor site.   The issues below represent a selection of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.innkeepingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tripadvisor.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-213" title="TripAdvisor Logo" src="http://www.innkeepingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tripadvisor.jpg" alt="TripAdvisor Logo" width="313" height="68" /></a>Sorry for the long post, but it&#8217;s been a while since I updated the innkeeping community on my discussions with TripAdvisor.  For those of you unaware of what PAII has been doing, I have been representing on behalf of innkeepers some requests for change on the TripAdvisor site.   The issues below represent a selection of matters I have been spotlighting for TripAdvisor staff during quarterly meetings at their headquarters outside Boston.</p>
<p>Change and progress are taking time, but I&#8217;m glad to report that some thing are changing and will continue to change.  The TripAdvisor staff have been willing to listen and engage in meaningful conversation every step of the way since I became involved. </p>
<p>The work we are doing keeps the B&amp;B industry visible in their eyes. </p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Site Features and Property Pages</span></strong></p>
<p>1. &#8221;Map this Hotel&#8221; link.<br />
This link on most B&amp;B pages leads to an Expedia map that doesn’t show the property’s location.  The property only shows on a map, if that property happens to give inventory to Expedia.  Yet on the same property page, a Google Map image already shows.  Using the “Map this Hotel” link can feel like a “bait and switch,” if it leads to a dead end.</p>
<p>Suggestion/Request:  Omit the &#8220;Map this Hotel&#8221; link for those properties not on Expedia (since you already have a Google map on the property page), or have the link refer to a Google Map like the one already shown on the page.  The “bait and switch” feeling should be removed for those properties not on Expedia.</p>
<p><strong><em>Dec 08 Update:</em></strong>  TripAdvisor indicated this link might change to “Map This Area” or something a little more accurate and all-encompassing for it’s purpose. </p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong> The map actually shows the location of all property addresses, so it’s not technically wrong.  The TA staff seemed to agree that it’s not an ideal experience for the traveler, and that we’ll keep this on the list for discussion.  I suggested at least changing it to something like “Map this Address,” to make it more accurate with what shows up.</p>
<p>2. Average Rate<br />
Some properties display an average rate, and others do not.  This seems to have changed since I last visited, when all properties seemed to have an average rate displayed.  I am hoping to learn more about how the average rate is determined and posted, and if innkeepers have the ability to edit the rate if it is wrong.</p>
<p>Suggestion/Request:  Allow innkeepers the ability to post rate ranges that may reflect the seasonal or other pricing changes of that moment</p>
<p><strong><em>Dec 08 Update:</em></strong>  Still don’t understand how this happens and how innkeepers can control this for the purpose of accuracy and correction.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong> Any properties that provide inventory to one of TA’s commerce partners (i.e. Expedia, Hotels.com, etc) are given an average rate based on actual inquiries and real rates offered on these sites.  If an inn is not on a commerce site, TA uses a third-party system to find rates, which has been the problem – many times they are not accurate.  We also learned while on site that an inn that USED to have inventory on a commerce site might have average rates showing from when that inn previously provided inventory – it could have been years ago.  Much of this seemed to puzzle the TA staff, and they were feverishly looking into the issue while I was there.  TA is launching more and more tools for owners to update their own pages and property information.  I advocated for letting owners enter their own rates, and the TA staff seemed to think this was the best way to go…except for inns that have live inventory with commerce partner sites – those inns’ prices will still be determined by live data capture.</p>
<p>3. Hyperlink to B&amp;B&#8217;s website<br />
There is no hyperlink to a B&amp;B’s web site on the property’s page on TripAdvisor.  Currently, this can be a dead end for visitors who want to learn more than what the page has to offer (i.e. see the inn’s web site, make a booking, etc).  Due to there being no direct link to a B&amp;B’s web site, innkeepers cannot tell how valuable TripAdvisor is in referring business. Their web traffic analytics cannot currently pick up on direct traffic from TripAdvisor.  If innkeepers could see the actual traffic they are getting, their respect and admiration for TripAdvisor could increase substantially.  Plus, visitors to your web site would appreciate not having to open a new window to search for the property separately.</p>
<p>Suggestion/Request:  Put hyperlinks to the properties’ own web sites on their TripAdvisor pages, like you do with restaurants on TripAdvisor. </p>
<p><strong><em>Dec 08 Update:</em></strong> Seems this went from “possible” to “not probable.”  What commerce opportunities are there for TripAdvisor with providing direct links to B&amp;B sites?</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong> I reiterated the importance of this, but there is nothing to report at this time.</p>
<p>4. Availability search tool – “Plan the perfect trip” Box<br />
When using the availability search fields on the TripAdvisor home page (entering city and check in/out dates), a visitor might encounter another dead-end with regard to B&amp;Bs.  If a property does not provide inventory to Expedia, and a visitor uses the availability search to find properties in a city for specific check-in and check-out dates, the current “No B&amp;Bs/Inns Found” message can be misleading.  There indeed may be B&amp;Bs in that city, which have availability.  TripAdvisor CEO said they would be willing to change the language.</p>
<p>Suggestion/Request:  Adjust the language of the “no availability” message to &#8220;No B&amp;Bs/inns are showing availability through this site, although some might have the availability you are looking for.  Click here to show all B&amp;Bs/inns regardless of price availability or online booking option.&#8221; Make this appear as one complete phrase.</p>
<p><strong><em>Dec 08 Update:</em></strong>  No progress.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  The new “Regardless of Availability vs. Confirmed Availability” approach is better, but B&amp;Bs seem to be even MORE hidden now.  Only hotels show in search.  B&amp;Bs only show if someone scrolls down on the left and opens the “Property Type” menu to choose B&amp;Bs.  Why can’t the system default to all types of lodging?  At least bring back the tabs, or move “Property Type” option to the top.  TA staff said they’ll look into this and seemed to agree that B&amp;Bs were too hidden.</p>
<p>5. Book Now button (new issue)<br />
Some properties of a “Book Now” button on the upper right side of their page.  It seems logical that only those properties with active inventory on commerce partner sites would have that button.  But we found at least one example of an inn that has no active inventory on a commerce partner site, and yet it had the “Book Now” button.  The button led to a dead-end, in which we typed in several options for check-in/check-out, and there was no inventory to be found. </p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  The TA staff said they’d speak to their people who work directly with Hotels.com and Expedia about this problem.<br />
6. Ubiquitous use of word Hotels<br />
I’ve mentioned this since the beginning of our conversation with TripAdvisor.  The word “hotels” is used everywhere throughout the site as the least common denominator term for all kinds of lodging.  B&amp;Bs are not hotels, but we are found only behind the word “hotels.”  I’m suggesting that the word “accommodations” or “lodging” be used when an all-encompassing term is appropriate.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  Little chance for change with this one.  TA staff tells me that “hotels” is a much more translatable term.  Considering how many international travelers use TripAdvisor, that is possibly understandable.  I still contend that English language versions of the site could use more generic terms in certain places.</p>
<p>7. Changes on “Other Destinations” box on lower right side of destination pages.<br />
Many popular city pages have a box on the lower right side that says “Other Destinations,” which has included direct links to other city pages in the area, i.e. Lancaster, Pennsylvania’s page will have a link to Gettysburg or Philadelphia.  A recent change was made to this box, and now the links go directly to the “hotels” pages for those cities, rather than the destination page.  This seems a bit misleading and cuts out what seems to be what the traveler is after – learning about other relevant destinations.  The links do say “Gettysburg Hotels,” but it’s still misleading.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  TA staff agreed that it is a strange experience and will investigate why the change was made.</p>
<p>8. Use of property names in advertising (new issue)<br />
While TripAdvisor uses much of a property’s page in the way of advertising, sponsored links, etc., there is one area that seems to cross the line of ethics and/or good taste.  If you look at a B&amp;B’s page, you’ll notice a “Best Deals” box on the right side, i.e. Swiss Woods B&amp;B has “Best Deals: Swiss Woods.”  The problem is that all the “best deals” in the box are simply hyperlinks to nearby hotels completely unrelated to Swiss Woods.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong> TA staff will investigate and they seemed to agree with my reasoning that this needs to be changed.  I am encouraged that this will be changed.</p>
<p>9. Old forum threads<br />
Many destinations have forums for visitors and potential visitors to get information on the destination.  Most forums are loaded with local experts (some tapped as official “destination experts” by TA), who answer questions about the area.  It was brought to our attention that threads older than 6 months that have not had any content updates will be “closed.”  This means a lot of valid content might not be accessible.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  TA staff were not aware of this change and are looking into it.<br />
<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Reviews and Reviewers</span></strong></p>
<p>1. The “Did you stay here?” qualifier.<br />
A problem with the current review rules is that someone who didn’t stay at a B&amp;B could leave a review about all aspects of the B&amp;B, including value, check-in, room and cleanliness.  It is reasonable to allow someone to leave a review if he or she didn’t stay at the inn (i.e. if the guest had a negative interaction with an innkeeper during the reservation or cancellation process).  But that reviewer should not be able to comment or review any other aspect of the experience than the booking or cancellation experience. </p>
<p>Suggestion/Request:  First ask the reviewer, “Did you stay at this property?”  If the answer is no, then the reviewer cannot review any aspects of the inn except something like “reservation process,” and their review should have less of an impact on the property’s “Popularity Index” than a review by someone who had a full stay. </p>
<p><strong><em>Dec 08 Update:</em></strong>  Cleanliness, Rooms and Value should not be able to be reviewed if someone didn’t stay at the inn.  A management response indicating they didn’t stay is not enough.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  It doesn’t seem likely that the TA staff I meet with will advocate for this change.  They did bring up a good point though.  If the question is asked if someone has stayed at the property, it could cause even more people to leave reviews (possibly fraudulent) in cases where the traveler didn’t stay at the property.  And, a point which is reasonable, someone’s negative experience with a cancellation or some other pre-stay interchange is just as valid to that traveler as someone who stayed 4 nights.  If it is any consolation, I was told that the ratings of cleanliness, rooms, etc do not have an impact on the Popularity Index like the overall rating does.  I still think someone who doesn’t stay shouldn’t be able to drill down and rate things like cleanliness or value.</p>
<p>2. Age of new reviews<br />
Although I cannot recall the exact rule, reviewers can review of a stay that might have happened a few years ago.  How far back can you go with a review?  There are two problems with posting a review of an experience that was long ago.  First, it shouldn’t be seen as a “new” review.  Currently, the new review will automatically be listed chronologically by date of stay, NOT date of review, so it could come up first on the list.  A visitor to the site might easily mistake it as a review of a recent stay, if he or she doesn’t pay close attention and find the “date of stay” information.  Also, it was unclear if the review impacts the Popularity Index as a new review, rather than an old review.  I was told that the older a review gets, the less impactful it is on the Popularity Index.  I’m wondering if the age of the review or the age of the date of stay is used for the index.</p>
<p>Suggestion/Request:  When someone leaves a review today of a stay from 8 months ago, the review should automatically be listed in chronological order by date of stay.  If the timing of a review impacts the Popularity Index, be sure the date of stay is taken into consideration, not the date of review.  Limit the time delay between a date of stay and date of review to one year.</p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong> I was told that TA changed the oldest possible review age from five years to three years.  It’s a move in the right direction, but I still believe someone should not be able to leave a review more than 12 months after their actual experience.  I was told that, with regard to the Popularity Index, a recent review of an old stay is considered old…meaning if someone leaves a review today of a stay 3 years ago, it would have minimal or no impact on the index.  I still advocated for reviews to be sorted chronologically by date of stay, so that a new review of a 3 year old stay does not default to the top of the list.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Management Responses and Conflict Resolution</span></strong></p>
<p>1. Removing censorship of management responses.<br />
In the online review game, innkeepers should be given the ability to fully defend themselves against any negative accusation – especially false ones.  While reviewers are allowed to remain anonymous and virtually safe from any negative comments by the innkeeper, innkeepers and their businesses are at great risk of suffering from negative and false reviews.  We hear from innkeepers all the time that their management responses do not get posted, and it seems TripAdvisor staff is being entirely too restrictive.</p>
<p>Suggestion/Request:  As long as the innkeeper’s response is germane to the respective review, doesn’t reveal the identity of the reviewer or break any important rules about online content, the innkeeper should be able to say just about whatever he wants.  The reviewer is anonymous, so there is no repercussion to an innkeeper’s response.</p>
<p><strong><em>Dec 08 Update:</em></strong>  TA staff indicated they’ve done a good deal of internal analysis of their management response review process and intend on making some changes. </p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  I hear through the grapevine that this has gotten better.  No innkeepers have come to me lately complaining that their management responses were not posted.</p>
<p>2. Abeyance Period<br />
Currently, a negative review (false or true) can get posted online very quickly.  There can be a tendency for guests to embellish, and there are plenty of stories of false or fraudulent negative reviews that do not get removed.  A negative review on TripAdvisor, and by extension the Popularity Index, can have an immediate and severe impact on an inn’s business.  Yet, there is little recourse against a false or embellished negative review except to leave a management response (a relatively anemic solution).  If a purpose of the site is to “Get the Truth,” an innkeeper should be able to immediately challenge a review based on facts or other criteria that make sense.  During that review period, a review should be removed.  By not removing a harmful and potentially false review, an inn’s business may suffer.  If a false review remains for weeks or months, and is subsequently found to be in fact false or fraudulent by TripAdvisor, the damage to the inn has already been done.  Allowing a negative review under question to remain indicates TripAdvisor may not care about the impact of that review on the inn.</p>
<p>Suggestion/Review:  If an innkeeper wants to challenge the validity of a review, the review should be held “in abeyance,” during which time TripAdvisor staff investigates.  The TripAdvisor team already investigates challenges posed by innkeepers, which seem to take many weeks to get resolved.  If the TripAdvisor team is already investigating challenges, why not remove a potentially harmful review during the investigation?  Reviews should only be held in abeyance if claims are made that the guest never stayed nor interacted with the property, or if there are factual disputes being made by the innkeeper about the review.  If the innkeeper is offended by the opinion of a legitimate guest and simply wants to challenge the opinion, then a review might not need to be held in abeyance.  In addition, there should be a way for the innkeeper to communicate with the anonymous guest through TripAdvisor’s messaging system.  If an innkeeper cannot confront his accuser due to anonymity, at least he should be able to communicate with the person about a review.  The purpose could be positive (i.e. to thank the reviewer) or to address the negative (i.e. to inquire about the harshness or other aspect of a review).  Many times guests will lie, embellish or place false blame, and the truth (remember “Get the Truth, Then Go) might not be seen in the review.  Guests do not likely know that a negative review impacts the Popularity Index, which in turn greatly impacts an inn’s business.  An opportunity for the innkeeper to send a note directly to the anonymous reviewer could diffuse many problems and lighten the burden of your staff.</p>
<p><strong><em>Dec 08 Update:</em></strong>  It turns out that innkeepers CAN communicate directly with the anonymous travelers.  Innkeepers need to join TripAdvisor as travelers, and then they can use the peer-to-peer messaging service.  As long as the innkeepers identify themselves as such and don’t harass any travelers, this is a decent solution for communicating with guests about their reviews. </p>
<p><strong><em>May 09 Update:</em></strong>  I suggested TA provide innkeepers with a guaranteed response time frame for resolution of any conflicts, but that doesn’t seem likely.  I was told that innkeepers should have their issues resolved within 2 weeks…maybe 3.  If the TA staff is overloaded, sometimes they do not communicate back with the property if no changes are to be made with the reviews in question.  I explained that innkeepers need closure on the issues and should be told what the decisions are.  TA staff indicated there may be a new conflict resolution form to fill out, which would allow faster routing of the issue to the right personnel.  I told TA staff that PAII would like to intervene if any issues are still lingering without any word of resolution (either good or bad) for a long period of time.  The abeyance period doesn’t seem likely any time soon, so I will keep pressing for it.  I still believe that an inn’s business can suffer unjustifiably by an embellished or false review and should be taken down during the review process.  But, TA staff feel that taking it down would be depriving the site visitors from possibly valid reviews.</p>
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		<title>Yelp Needs a Dose of Fairness</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rick Wolf of The B&#38;B Team shared with me a recent NY Times article about the online review site, Yelp.  Some innkeepers are beginning to see reviews of their properties on this site.  From what I can tell, and what this article explains in more details, is that Yelp gives business owners little [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Wolf of The B&amp;B Team shared with me a recent NY Times article about the online review site, <a href="http://www.yelp.com/">Yelp</a>.  Some innkeepers are beginning to see reviews of their properties on this site.  From what I can tell, and what this article explains in more details, is that Yelp gives business owners little or no opportunities to defend themsevles against any reviews.  They don&#8217;t even offer an opportunity for management responses!  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/technology/start-ups/03yelp.html">Read the article here</a>.</p>
<p>The CEO of Yelp, Jeremy Stoppelman, says his top priority is “to make sure the community (of reviewers) is protected and can share without fear of being publicly spat on.”  Here is where Mr. Stoppelman is off-base.  Since reviewers are anonymous, there is no risk of being publicly spat on, because no one knows who the reviewers are.  The business owners are the ones who bear 100% of the chance of being publicly spat on.  This imbalance is a major, unfortunate flaw in such review sites.</p>
<p>Stoppleman even says, &#8220;Business owners want to control their reputation, and we&#8217;re just not going to let that happen.&#8221;  All I can say in response is a dumbfounded, &#8220;wow.&#8221;</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s days like today when I wish I could hop on a plane, fly to San Francisco and shake some sense into people like Mr. Stoppelman.  At least TripAdvisor has been open to hearing my opinions and suggestions.  It sounds like the folks at Yelp wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to accept my request for a meeting with their top brass.</p>
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		<title>Libel, Defamation and Online Reviews &#8211; Oh My!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I interviewed Mr. Charlie Kennedy, an attorney well-versed in the issues of cyberlaw and customer content on web sites, as part of our new series of Innkeeping Industry Interviews.  Charlie will be speaking at the upcoming Innkeeping Show as part of our general session on &#8220;Mastering Online Reviews and Reputation Management.&#8221;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I interviewed <a href="http://www.mofo.com/attorneys/4405/summary.html">Mr. Charlie Kennedy</a>, an attorney well-versed in the issues of cyberlaw and customer content on web sites, as part of our new series of Innkeeping Industry Interviews.  Charlie will be speaking at the upcoming <a href="http://www.innkeepingshow.com/">Innkeeping Show </a>as part of our general session on &#8220;Mastering Online Reviews and Reputation Management.&#8221;</p>
<p>I asked Charlie to speak with me, and to speak at the conference, because innkeepers often ask me good questions about the ability for anonymous people to possibly (and actually) leave defaming remarks on web sites about their inns.</p>
<p>What protects review sites like TripAdvisor, Yelp!, Amazon, etc. from libel suits, when defaming reviews appear on their sites?</p>
<p>What recourse does an innkeeper have with regard to seeking a judgment against someone who is making false allegations about their property on a review site?</p>
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<p>I asked these questions, and more, of Charlie. <a href="http://www.utterli.com/u/utt/u-ODE2NTM2MQ#utt-ODE2NTM2MQ"></a> Use the player below to listen to the interview.  I welcome your comments.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jay Karen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nearly 300 innkeepers submitted their stories of hardship, grievance and praise for TripAdvisor when I asked the industry to share thoughts and opinions of how this site impacts the businesses and lives of innkeepers. Innkeepers spoke up and continue to send me emails almost daily on the subject. There is no doubt of the need [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">Nearly 300 innkeepers submitted their stories of hardship, grievance and praise for TripAdvisor when I asked the industry to share thoughts and opinions of how this site impacts the businesses and lives of innkeepers. Innkeepers spoke up and continue to send me emails almost daily on the subject. There is no doubt of the need for PAII to facilitate a conversation between our industry and TripAdvisor. The conversation began just a couple of weeks ago, when I visited with TripAdvisor CEO, Stephen Kaufer, and some of his top staff.</p>
<p>Distilling 300 different stories and perspectives into a succinct message was a difficult task (and I read every single one of them), yet some patterns emerged. With only an afternoon with TripAdvisor, I had to pick some of the most pressing matters to bring to the table.</p>
<p>My meeting with Kaufer and others (Brian Payea, Director of Trade Relations, and Tricia Oliveira, Manager of Hotel Relations and Fraud) was 3 hours of rapid-fire questioning. It must have felt like a deposition to them. I found their team to be very reasonable and willing to listen and respond to the issues we are bringing to the table. I was pleased to leave the meeting with what seemed to be some agreement for certain changes and a commitment to keep discussing other matters that couldn’t be solved in one afternoon. As expected, there were some requests and ideas I brought to the table on behalf of innkeepers, which were not met with agreement.</p>
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<p>Those headline topics, all of which seem to be supported by an ample number of stories and lines of reason, were as follows:</p>
<p><strong><u>Site Features and Property Pages</u></strong> – B&amp;B pages on TripAdvisor and overall search functionality seem to lead traffic away from B&amp;Bs, and the use of certain terms seem to demonstrate a favoritism towards hotels above all lodging options.</p>
<p><strong><u>Reviews and Reviewers</u></strong> – it seems that anyone can say just about anything about an inn on TripAdvisor (with some exception), without needed oversight, except some automated fraud protections and a few basic rules (which don’t seem to be enforced consistently).</p>
<p><strong><u>Popularity Index</u></strong> – it’s a secret what exactly impacts an inn’s ranking on TripAdvisor, but there are factors which seem to ignore fairness. Ranking on this index can immediately be impacted by fraudulent reviews or those used as means of revenge, rather than honest feedback.</p>
<p><strong><u>Conflict Resolution</u></strong> – the opportunity to leave a management response seems to be the only tool available to combat unfair or untrue reviews, and TripAdvisor appears to be slow or unresponsive with attempts to have grievances resolved. When grievances are resolved, they seem to favor reviewers more than the reviewed.</p>
<p><strong><u>Site Features and Property Pages</u></strong><br />The “Map this Hotel” link on most B&amp;B pages leads to an Expedia.com map page that does not show the location of the B&amp;B, unless the B&amp;B provides inventory to Expedia.com. The map that shows up for B&amp;Bs not on Expedia shows properties near the B&amp;B that are on Expedia.com, which include the B&amp;B’s competition. So, for the 90%+ of innkeepers who are not on Expedia.com, this seems like a “bait and switch” tactic. Stephen Kaufer felt this was indeed a disservice to both the innkeeper and the visitor to the site and should be addressed. I offered the idea of allowing the link to go to a Google Map of the property, if the property is not on Expedia.com, just like the restaurant pages on TripAdvisor. If the B&amp;B is on Expedia, the map that shows up is an Expedia map of all the area properties including the B&amp;B in question. The jury is still out on what the solution will be for those B&amp;Bs not on Expedia.<br /><em><span style="font-size:85%;">(On the morning of 10/10/2008 I noticed that some B&amp;B&#8217;s &#8220;Map this Hotel&#8221; link actually goes to a Google Map window.  This is much better.  But, this isn&#8217;t the case with all B&amp;Bs.  I&#8217;m looking into it.)</em><br /><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"><br />I asked about the sources used for the “Average Rate” figure seen on property pages, since many innkeepers report their true average rate is not in line with what TripAdvisor reports. Many innkeepers have callers who reference the TripAdvisor rate, which can often be far from accurate. The average rate is either pulled directly from sources like Expedia.com and Hotels.com, or it’s pulled from a third-party source that apparently finds these rates. For those not on Expedia, this can be a big problem. The TripAdvisor staff says any innkeeper can contact their staff to get the average rate adjusted. A problem, as reported by one innkeeper, is that the rate has a tendency to change back to the rate provided by their third-party source. I offered the solution of allowing innkeepers to enter their own average rates, or better yet rate ranges, through the owner log-in area. The restaurants listed on TripAdvisor display rate ranges. I thought this would be a safe bet for innkeepers. They liked the idea.</p>
<p>I inquired about the possibility of having links on the B&amp;B pages back to the B&amp;B websites. Currently, for those visitors to TripAdvisor who want to learn more about the property, they have to open a new window and use a search engine to find the B&amp;B. So, essentially, the B&amp;B pages on TripAdvisor are dead-end experiences for users. Kaufer agreed this wasn’t ideal for their site visitors. He is contemplating the prospect of putting links on the property pages that go directly to the B&amp;B websites. This would be a big deal for innkeepers, especially those who carefully track web traffic, as they’ll be able to know how many leads come directly from TripAdvisor.</p>
<p>I encouraged the consistent use of the term “accommodations” instead of “hotels,” which is used throughout the site. To their credit, the front page uses the term “Hotels &amp; Accommodations,” but then “hotels” seems to be the term of choice in all subpages where a link to all lodging choices might be. Kaufer said that where the term “hotels” is used in many places, it’s the only option for a link to lodging properties. In those cases, it’s not that big of a deal; anyone searching for even a B&amp;B would instinctively click the “hotels” link when it is placed next to links such as flights, things to do and restaurants. Nevertheless, I think “hotels” still represents one part of the accommodations industry and believe a more general term could be used. I’m not sure what changes might happen with this issue, but I’ll continue to beat the drum.</p>
<p>When examining the search functions on TripAdvisor, there really are two main choices from the homepage: what I call the “super search” field at the very top of the home page, and the “availability search,” which asks for the traveler’s intended destination and arrival/departure dates (the actual words used are “Find Hotels Travelers Trust”). There are problems with both search tools. When using the “super search” field, if one types in “Norman, OK,” he will see a listing of accommodations that have the word “Norman” in the name of the property, i.e. Hilton Garden Inn Norman. But the Montford Inn, which is the town’s #1 rated B&amp;B, doesn’t show up, unless you 1) click on the “hotels” link under the Norman, OK link then 2) click on the B&amp;B radio button on the “Search Norman Hotels” page that appears. The obvious problem with this is that most B&amp;Bs (and hotels for that matter) don’t have the city name in the name of their businesses. TripAdvisor staff didn’t seem to think this was that big of a deal, and that most people who type “Norman, OK” would most likely next click the Norman, OK link (which leads to an overview page about Norman) or would click the “Hotels” link right under the link to<br />
 the overview page. The “availability search” tool has been a big problem for innkeepers, because those B&amp;Bs not with Expedia are getting left behind. If you typed in “Norman, OK” and chose the check-in date of January 12, 2009 and check-out date of January 13, 2009, you would first see any hotels in that city that have online availability through one of TripAdvisor’s commerce partners, i.e. Expedia.com. To find B&amp;Bs, you would have to click on the B&amp;B radio button. Since there are no B&amp;Bs in Norman that offer online availability through Expedia, the message reads “No B&amp;Bs/inns found.” There is a subtle link that says, “<a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g51547-c2-Norman_Oklahoma-Hotels.html"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">Show all B&amp;Bs / inns regardless of price, availability or online booking option</a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">,” but it’s confusing. If they plan to stay with the current search functionality that might indicate that no B&amp;Bs had availability on the dates entered, I suggested that language along these lines be used:</p>
<p>“The system is returning no availability for B&amp;Bs/inns who offer rooms on TripAdvisor’s commerce partner sites. There may be B&amp;Bs/inns in this market with availability and pricing you seek. Click here to show all B&amp;Bs/inns regardless of price, availability or online booking option to continue your search.”</p>
<p>Kaufer said they would change the wording to reflect what I thought was more accurate, if we came up with more concise wording.</p>
<p>If an B&amp;B is in a city or town in the same market as another city (i.e. Mt. Pleasant, SC and Charleston, SC), the B&amp;B will only show up in searches of that B&amp;B’s particular city. In other words, B&amp;Bs in Mt. Pleasant, SC, will not show up when doing a search on Charleston, SC. Innkeepers outside the city limits of Charleston would probably enjoy being listed among properties in Charleston, but TripAdvisor searches are strictly city-based. In other words, a B&amp;B in Mt. Pleasant will only show up on searches for B&amp;Bs in Mt. Pleasant. The TripAdvisor staff indicated there are no plans to change this.</p>
<p>Some innkeepers expressed an interest in having their inns removed from TripAdvisor; they’d rather not be found than endure the negative reviews (whether real, fraudulent or embellished). I mentioned to the TripAdvisor staff that travelers must agree to the terms and conditions of the site in order to leave reviews, but innkeepers and hoteliers who disagree with the terms and conditions were “forced” into existence on TripAdvisor. I asked why they could not be removed, except in the case when the inn closed. Kaufer explained the purpose of the site is to provide information and reviews on all accommodations, and they would be a less useful resource if travelers wanted to find reviews about properties that were really open for business, but didn’t want to be reviewed. I’m not sure what the legalities are here, but I think this should be pursued more deeply. It doesn’t seem right that one business can profit from the existence and the reviews of others businesses against the will of the business owners.</p>
<p>TripAdvisor staff said that very few innkeepers take advantage of some of the tools that would maximize the usefulness of their property pages. For example, TripAdvisor lists 65 B&amp;Bs in Cape May, NJ, and less than half include photos of the properties. Innkeepers have the ability to upload their own photos and videos, or ask friendly guests (and photo enthusiasts) to upload their own media.</p>
<p><strong><u>Reviews and Reviewers</u></strong><br />The issue of qualifying reviewers was an important topic of my conversation with the TripAdvisor staff. The system treats all reviews similarly, but not all reviewers are necessarily equal. Some are first-time “inngoers,” while others have been staying at B&amp;Bs for years, and therefore have different expectations than the new folks (not meeting expectations seems to be a cause for many harsh reviews). Some reviewers never even stayed at the properties they were allowed to review. Some innkeepers suggest that a review should be qualified with the question, “Did you mention any problems cited in your review with the manager or owner, giving them a chance to correct those problems?” Other innkeepers insist the right thing to do is to NOT protect the identity of the reviewers.</p>
<p>One of the most common criticisms of TripAdvisor is that the site allows users to leave reviews of B&amp;Bs, even if they didn’t stay at the B&amp;B. I read many stories about how prospective guests cancelled their reservations with a B&amp;B, protested the cancellation fees and left negative reviews of the B&amp;B as a means of revenge. There were even some stories about how potential guests threatened to leave negative reviews if their deposits were not returned; only to find out they still left negative reviews even after their money was returned. TripAdvisor allows reviews to be posted that deal with any experience one has with a property or the management. On one hand, I can see why TripAdvisor allows this. If I read a review in the paper about a fantastic new restaurant in Philadelphia and made 7:30 pm reservations for dinner with my wife, only to find that by 8:15 the night of our dinner we still had not been seated, I might decide to leave the restaurant. I certainly would be interested in leaving a review on Zagat.com or some other notable restaurant review site. It was a valid experience that I had at the restaurant, even though I did not eat there. On the other hand, I can see how allowing anonymous reviews by people who didn’t even eat at the restaurant is an invitation for false reviews. A problem with TripAdvisor is that someone who didn’t stay at the B&amp;B could leave a review about all aspects of the B&amp;B, including value, check-in, room and cleanliness. My suggestion to TripAdvisor staff was to first ask the reviewer, “Did you stay at this property?” If the answer is no, then the reviewer cannot review any aspects of the inn except something like “reservation process,” and their review should have less of an impact on the property’s “Popularity Index” than a review by someone who had a full stay. Kaufer thought this was an interesting idea that deserved merit and attention.</p>
<p>To the idea of requiring the reviewer to indicate if he or she mentioned any problems to the innkeeper, Kaufer said the management response tool should indicate any cases where guests neglected to bring up issues that could have been corrected during the stay.</p>
<p>Regarding the idea of indicating if a reviewer is a first-time inngoer, novice, experienced or veteran, the TripAdvisor staff didn’t seem to think it was a great idea. This would be altering their membership profiling or review system to accommodate a small segment of their universe.</p>
<p>Another issue brought to the table was the fact that people can leave reviews today about experiences they had three or four years ago. Furthermore, those reviews will show up first on the list. To the untrained eye, it appears as though the new review was for a recent stay. One has to open the actual review and look for the “Date of Stay” in order to see that the review was about an experience four years ago. At least the review should be placed in chronological order by “Date of Stay” instead of the date the review was entered. The TripAdvisor staff didn’t seem to object to that line of reasoning, although there was no commitment to change the programming to place the old review automatically in chronological order. Kaufer suggested they increase the visibility of the “Date of Stay.” Kaufer also explained when the site was first launched, they probably agreed to a more liberal timeline on reviews in order to get the system populated with reviews. Now that the system is full of reviews, he agreed it made sense to examine that policy again. Nothing older than one year seemed to be a reasonable policy. I think it makes most sense for reviews of the most recent stays to default to the top of the list; after all, travelers want to first see reviews of the most recent experiences.</p>
<p>I also brought up the issue of reviews remaining on the site that could be four or five years old, and that things definitely change over time. I inquired about allowing old reviews to “sunset” off the site, as they were basically useless for someone traveling today. TripAdvisor staff said the old reviews would remain, but that much older reviews are virtually worthless with regards to impacting the Popularity Index, indicating that with age a review becomes less significant (if that’s any consolation for those who inquired about this topic). The staff did reiterate the policy on their website about old reviews being removed when there is new ownership. If someone buys an existing inn and furnishes proof of the new ownership to TripAdvisor, they will remove all the old reviews. Some innkeepers reported to me unsuccessful attempts to get this done, while others said they had no problem getting old reviews removed. If any innkeepers continue to have problems in this area, please feel free to contact us. We’ll try to help.</p>
<p>TripAdvisor allows members to rate other members’ reviews as being helpful or not. I suggested if members rate another member’s review as NOT helpful, then this review should fall in significance with regard to the Popularity Index. If some crazy, impossible-to-satisfy guest leaves an absurd review (and others find it to be unhelpful), shouldn’t that review have less weight than those which were either not rated or found to be very helpful? This is not the case right now, but the staff seemed to like the idea.</p>
<p>Some innkeepers reported that their guests attempted to leave reviews, but the reviews never made it to TripAdvisor. TripAdvisor staff said they do not prevent reviews from being posted, unless they don’t conform to the rules (and in those cases, the reviewers will be notified). The likely scenario is that the reviewer didn’t go through the final steps of confirming the reviews. I believe in some cases, the reviewer will get an email (maybe after the first attempted review) requesting a confirmation. If the reviewer doesn’t complete the steps as instructed, the review will not be posted. Innkeepers should be sure guests who inform them about this are aware there might be confirmation steps to take. Looking in a spam or junk mail folder might be a good idea to check for emails from the TripAdvisor system.</p>
<p>I asked the TripAdvisor staff if a negative review holds more weight than a positive review. They said no, but wouldn’t go into much detail about the algorithm used to determine the Popularity Index ranking. We can surmise that rankings are helped by the number of positive reviews, as well as how recent they are. I would guess the system works something like a Grade Point Average system. I remember when I had a 4.0 GPA through the first semester of my sophomore year in college. That second semester I earned a C in a class, and my GPA plummeted to something like 3.6. It took 3 more semesters of straight As to bring it up into the 3.9 range. That C didn’t hold any more weight than an A when examined by itself, but it surely had a big impact on my GPA. My guess (and it’s only a guess) is that negative reviews might have a similar impact on ranking.</p>
<p>Some major competitive sports involve scoring by judges (i.e. 1 to 10), and in some of those cases the lowest and highest scores are omitted. I brought forward the idea of dropping the highest and lowest reviews. Understandably, TripAdvisor staff didn’t think the idea was a good one. If someone has a legitimate negative review, it should probably remain.</p>
<p>I asked why they don’t require proof of stay with negative reviews, like the folks at BedandBreakfast.com. They said the business model would require proof for all or proof fo none, and they opted for none when they started the site. There is no intention of changing that. They cited the fact that having to go through the steps of furnishing proof would deter many people from leaving reviews, and I agreed that would likely be true. If I was required to dig up a receipt, I would probably give up the quest to leave a negative review. Fewer negative reviews would likely get posted, which would mean that travelers wouldn’t value TripAdvisor (or any other similar review sites) as a legitimate resource for candid reviews, thereby limiting the effectiveness and purpose of the websites. One could argue that proof of stay should also be required for positive reviews, as a means to prevent an innkeeper or hotelier from stacking the deck with false positives. Requiring proof of stay for reviews (either positive or negative) would no doubt curtail the number of reviews, but it would also combat false reviewing. The bottom line is that TripAdvisor has no plans to start requiring proof of stay. I personally have mixed feelings about requiring proof of stay. It would curtail fraud and embellishment, but many people feel they can only leave honest reviews due to the protection of anonymity. If I’m a frequent guest of a hotel and had some bad experiences, but know that I’ll be back to that hotel, I’m not sure I want the hotel to know that it was me who left the review – but I may indeed want other potential guests to know my two cents. The ideal situation would be where all reviewers would either have to identify themselves or proof of stay could be furnished automatically through email identification and the reservation process. Administratively, that is a nightmare for review sites like TripAdvisor to consider, since reservations are not made through their site.</p>
<p><strong><u>Popularity Index</u></strong><br />While I touch on the Popularity Index in other areas of this summary, I posed some specific questions about the index (well-knowing that their algorithm is a secret). I explained, though they probably don’t need reminding, that the index is impacting commerce. Innkeepers tell us that a ranking of #1 can mean real business. The converse can be true; a drop in ranking or low rankings can damage or kill a business. No one knows the rules, but some education is needed. To illustrate my point that the system is a complete enigma (to a fault), on the day I visited TripAdvisor the #1 ranked hotel in Austin, TX, was the Super 8 out by the airport. It has a total of 12 reviews. All were 5s and none was older than April 2008. With all due respect to the Super 8, I didn’t understand how such a property could be ranked #1 in such a metropolitan area. Even the TripAdvisor staff seemed stumped on that one.</p>
<p>I asked if the volume of reviews impacts the ranking, and I couldn’t really get an affirmative on that one. If you look at the Super 8 example above, you would think not. I asked how can a 5-room B&amp;B that is open for one year with 20 reviews compete on a level playing field with a 15-room B&amp;B open for 30 years with 300 reviews? I wondered if a ratio of rooms-to-reviews should be considered. In other words, if a property has 5 rooms, then they shouldn’t have to garner a large number of reviews in order to compete at the top of the ranking. TripAdvisor didn’t seem that interested in having a ratio-type formula; they said smaller properties are just going to have to work harder to gain more reviews. Kaufer suggested that innkeepers of smaller properties are more likely to have a more intimate relationship with the guests, so getting more reviews might not be as difficult. To his point though, would a ratio-based formula also mean that one negative review would be more impactful in the Popularity Index for a small inn than a larger inn? As of now, no change is expected with regard to the number of rooms a B&amp;B has.</p>
<p>The Popularity Index is a ranking system, i.e. #1 or #5 in a particular market. I asked why they chose this format, rather than a categorical ranking bas<br />
ed on having achieved a certain score (i.e. a Preferred Property based on having an overall score of 4.0 or higher). In that scenario, B&amp;Bs with similar scores have a chance to compete more evenly, rather than one B&amp;B actually being ranked #1. A problem with a numbered system is that a B&amp;B could be ranked #10 in a market of 70 B&amp;Bs, and still be phenomenal. But with a numbered system, that B&amp;B would not be seen on the first page. A visitor would have to click through more links to see that property. If rankings were based on achievement categories, visitors might go deeper into the site to see all the B&amp;Bs that achieved good rankings; thereby facilitating even more page views for TripAdvisor (translation – more exposure for all those paid, sponsored links all over the site). TripAdvisor staff said that travelers want to see numbered rankings, and that they prominently display average rankings already. So, guests who want to see all the properties with average rankings of 4.0 or higher can already do that. Nevertheless, my point was that visitors are distracted by the numbered rankings, and the foster hyper-competitiveness. This hyper-competitiveness is what drives innkeepers to go beyond their comfort level to solicit reviews.</p>
<p>One innkeeper asked me to find out if any individual TripAdvisor staff members have the ability to single-handedly change a property’s ranking. The innkeeper claimed after some negative interactions with the TripAdvisor staff that the B&amp;B’s ranking immediately dropped. The staff insisted no individual employee at TripAdvisor has that ability. But, I was told (if my memory and notes serve me correctly) that if the innkeeper of a property is under suspicion of fraudulent activity, the B&amp;B is placed on a certain probationary status, and that status can impact their ranking. In other words, TripAdvisor staff can impact ranking based on what they deem is suspicious activity by an innkeeper or hotelier.</p>
<p>I expressed to the TripAdvisor team that in a competitive system, such as the Popularity Index, where the stakes are very high, it’s vitally important that the reviews which dictate the ranking be 100% legitimate. This is why I’m pressing for changes with conflict resolution, which you’ll read about below.</p>
<p><strong><u>Conflict Resolution</u></strong><br />From the stories sent to me, it seems as though management responses go through a more stringent line of scrutiny than reviews. I imagine the ratio of reviews-to-responses is probably 100-to-1, so it stands to reason the TripAdvisor staff doesn’t examine reviews as closely as they do management responses. I received several stories about management responses never showing up on the site, and in some cases not getting any response as to why. The staff insists management responses are not singled out for scrutiny more than reviews, but many anecdotes shared with me seem to tell a different story. For example, neither reviews nor responses are allowed to contain “insults,” yet I hear stories of innkeepers or staff being called unethical, lazy or other terms. When innkeepers attempt to make similar comments about the reviewers, they are restricted (although I think innkeepers should think carefully about lashing out at possibly deserving guest; remember management responses are for future TripAdvisor visitors and prospective guests, not necessarily the upset reviewer).</p>
<p>I asked how many staff members are assigned to helping owners with conflict resolution, but they declined to tell me. I asked this question, because an overwhelming number of innkeepers complained about how long it takes to get a reply from TripAdvisor, and in most cases the replies are rote and don’t really address the problems. All the while, potentially false or negative reviews remain on the site causing further damage to the inns’ reputations and rankings. I was told that response and/or resolution time right now could take 2 to 4 weeks. I didn’t get the sense that things were necessarily fair and balanced, and conflict resolution is the at the heart of most matters.</p>
<p>If a reviewer was to claim his bed contained bed bugs, and yet it just wasn’t true, I asked what recourse an innkeeper might have. The TripAdvisor staff insisted that any bed bug claim was an immediate red flag, meaning the review in question was immediately under suspicion for being false or fraudulent, and that staff fully investigate such claims. That’s not to say, though, that an innkeeper has any recourse except to bear the negative review on the inn’s page and in the popularity rankings (should the TripAdvisor staff not find enough evidence to deny the review). The problem is that a staff of unknown people is playing judge and jury with many he-said/she-said cases like this, and the innkeeper is the one who stands to suffer much more than an anonymous reviewer.</p>
<p>TripAdvisor is often accused of libel, since potentially false or malicious content on their site could (and does) cause serious harm to the reputation of businesses. But it appears TripAdvisor is protected, because the content of the site is generated by anonymous individuals – not TripAdvisor. When asked if they ever had to reveal the identity of one of their members when a hotelier or innkeeper was bringing suit against the reviewer, they could not recall one instance when that occurred. While I am not an attorney, I plan to consult with attorneys that specialize in libel and defamation law, so I can learn more about the ins and outs of the matter. It just doesn’t seem right that a business is forced into existence on a site like TripAdvisor and to sustain any attacks that come its way – whether true or false. It is evident that B&amp;Bs out there are being harmed by false reviews. One’s standing on the Popularity Index can directly impact the number of inquiries and reservations a property gets, and false or defaming negative reviews impact a B&amp;B’s placement on the index. Nevertheless, TripAdvisor seems comfortable about being protected against libelous statements made on their site, and there seems to be no satisfactory resolution for innkeepers who find themselves victim to false statements that get past TripAdvisor’s fraud detectors.</p>
<p>TripAdvisor espouses a zero tolerance policy for fake reviews, which is admirable, but we know the system is far from foolproof. They espouse the policy on the very page where a member is to leave a review. I encouraged the staff to consider an equally-grave warning about zero tolerance for false or malicious reviews. There is a difference between a fake review (someone who never had an experience with the B&amp;B) and a false, malicious review (an embellished or untrue negative review). But if members are protected behind the shield of anonymity from accusations of libel, such a new warning will not likely see the light of day. Nevertheless, I think TripAdvisor could do much more to protect owners of hotels and inns from actual libel, rather than leaving them hanging in the wind and exposed to defamation.</p>
<p>Regarding the management response system, TripAdvisor often encourages innkeepers to use this tool as a means of completing the picture a member half-painted, as well as a means for engendering a positive message about the B&amp;B. My opinion is that the current set of rules and system of scrutiny should be loosened up, and innkeepers should be allowed more latitude in saying what they want. They should be allowed to criticize TripAdvisor policies (which is not allowed in a management response), and they should be allowed to make comments about the reviewer as they see fit. On one hand, I know some innkeepers will go too far and write things they probably shouldn’t (in the heat of the moment), but I still think it’s the right way to go, assuming the rules for reviewers don’t change. Some TripAdvisor staff seemed to think it was reasonable to allow management or reviewers to criticize TripAdvisor policies; after all, I said, this is all about Web 2.0 and transparency, righ<br />
t?</p>
<p>I asked if a B&amp;B’s Popularity Index ranking is altered when an owner leaves a management response. While they do not reveal the “secret sauce” of the index, they said no. I think leaving a management response is certainly a good idea, but it doesn’t help one’s ranking. Many innkeepers feel they do not want to “dignify the negative review” with a response; I think they are doing themselves a disservice by staying quiet. A reasonable, well-worded response can show potential guests there is a caring, conscientious innkeeper at this business, and a response can help complete the real story. The review is only half the story, but visitors to TripAdvisor may think it’s the complete story in the absence of a response. Innkeepers would really be helping themselves by completing the story.</p>
<p>Lastly regarding conflict resolution, I suggested a new procedure for the TripAdvisor staff to consider. Because a review can quickly impact a B&amp;B’s ranking and reputation, innkeepers should be notified by email immediately when a new review is posted. If a negative review is posted, and the innkeeper believes the review is fake, false or fraudulent, there should be an opportunity for an appeal (and here’s the important part) during which time the review is immediately removed from the site until the appeal is settled. The innkeeper should have an opportunity to contact the reviewer through the TripAdvisor messaging system without revealing the reviewer’s identity (not unlike what buyers and sellers can do on ebay), and inquire about the review. Maybe the reviewer was quarrelling with his wife during a stay at the B&amp;B and took it out on the innkeeper with some false or misleading accusations. Would a cooling off period and kind inquiry from the innkeeper allow for a more accurate review? What if the reviewer misstated some “facts” about the B&amp;B? What if the innkeeper had good reason to believe the reviewer never stayed at the property? I call this an “abeyance period.” Hold the review in abeyance until the matter has a chance to be settled offline. It’s important that it get settled offline before the review impacts a B&amp;B’s reputation and ranking, because a negative review can cause an immediate financial (and possibly undue) impact on the B&amp;B. I think that is the right thing for TripAdvisor to do, if they truly want to facilitate a fair and balanced system. There should still be an appeals process through which an innkeeper can request that TripAdvisor consider removing a review based on factual errors or other breeches of the rules, so it’s not completely up to the reviewer if a review is changed or removed. It’s just not fair to an innkeeper that a possibly unfounded, false or fake review can immediately be posted for the public to see – and stay there for many weeks – until an issue is resolved. Kaufer seemed to think this was a reasonable idea, yet it would take a while to implement such a change. Nevertheless, this is an idea I will continue to advocate.</p>
<p><strong><u>Closing</u></strong><br />To those upset innkeepers who were hoping for blood to have been spilled, it didn’t happen. Certainly there are some very serious issues here that greatly impact the livelihood of thousands of innkeepers, and we are taking them very seriously. At this stage in the game, we feel it is important to work with the leadership of TripAdvisor. They need to understand the disproportionate impact their site has on our sector of the lodging industry, so that policies, procedures and functionality is not built without adequate awareness of our needs.</p>
<p>As you see, there are many issues on the table, and I tried to cover a lot of ground in little time. For those issues that seemed to be met with relative agreement, I will keep those on a short list for hopeful change sooner than later. I will continue to represent the needs of innkeepers on all other matters with TripAdvisor and report progress or outcomes to the membership as they happen. I am an advocate for the innkeeping industry, yet I think it’s important to look at these issues from the perspectives of those in our industry, TripAdvisor and consumers. What I seek is fairness and what makes good sense considering all players in this online review phenomenon. After all, we know TripAdvisor has brought new business to inns all over the continent (how many innkeepers have been told, “We saw your reviews on TripAdvisor…”) from the millions of visitors they get, yet we know how unfair practices can cripple a business. The end result is to make sure that not only do we not get lost in the TripAdvisor world, but that we are treated fairly. While in the grand scheme of things we don’t deliver much money to TripAdvisor or their commerce partners like Expedia, we certainly deliver eyeballs to their website. That undoubtedly makes us deserving of some attention and changes. It’s too important to innkeepers to put something like this on the back burner.</p>
<p>Jay Karen<br />President &amp; CEO</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The presence of TripAdvisor in our marketplace is the definitive double-edged sword, and a very sharp one at that. On one side of the sword you have the opportunity for exposure to millions and millions of visitors to their web site, and the chance for potential guests to read glowing reviews from REAL PEOPLE who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">The presence of TripAdvisor in our marketplace is the definitive double-edged sword, and a very sharp one at that. On one side of the sword you have the opportunity for exposure to millions and millions of visitors to their web site, and the chance for potential guests to read glowing reviews from REAL PEOPLE who stayed at your inn. And you don’t even have to pay membership fees or a commission on bookings! If you have frequent and recent positive reviews, you might even get a high ranking in your marketplace. Nothing like being able to say “Ranked #1 by TripAdvisor in XYZ City” on your web site. On the other side of the sword you have the frustration and fallout of negative reviews (real, embellished or just plain false – many times with no recourse). There are features of the site (both obvious and subtle) that move visitors away from properties that do not share a piece of the revenue with the triumvirate of Expedia.com, Hotels.com and/or TripAdvisor, and towards properties that do (by-and-large hotels). And how many of you have been simply threatened with negative reviews on TripAdvisor? A double-edged sword indeed.</p>
<p>TripAdvisor has been lightly involved with PAII, having attended our 2007 convention in Myrtle Beach as an exhibitor and speaker, and sending a representative to participate in our State of the Industry panel discussion at the 2008 event. I’ve had some chats with their senior staff about various issues from time-to-time. Recently, though, I approached TripAdvisor about having a better working relationship. After all, there are over 15,000 B&amp;Bs and inns on their directory (we help bring traffic in their direction), and their impact on our industry is indisputable. I shared with the membership that I have been intending to step-up PAII’s dialogue with TripAdvisor. I’ve received several different opinions on the way in which we should or should not deal with TripAdvisor, ranging from organizing a class action lawsuit to seeking an official advisory position among their leadership. I’ve been advised that we should become close allies with them, as well as criticized for giving them more significant deference than the online review sites born in our own innkeeping industry. While the best path forward hasn’t been cleared yet, there is no arguing against the need for someone to represent the interests and concerns of our industry with TripAdvisor.</p>
<p>TripAdvisor has a power-grip on the online review phenomenon in the lodging industry, but there are indeed other players. <a href="http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">BedandBreakfast.com</a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"> has a robust online review system, and <a href="http://www.bnbfinder.com/"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">BnBfinder.com</a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"> and <a href="http://www.iloveinns.com/"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">iloveinns.com</a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"> have opportunities for guests to leave reviews of properties listed with their directories. While I hope we don’t see more and more online review programs in our industry, thereby further frustrating innkeepers (who seem to have enough trouble suggesting guests leave reviews online in the first place), I do think innkeepers would do themselves and this industry a favor by supporting the review programs of online B&amp;B directories. It wouldn’t take much to include links in your thank you emails and on your web sites to your review pages on BnBfinder.com, BedandBreakfast.com or iloveinns.com. Your most satisfied customers might want to leave positive reviews all over the internet, and your potential guests may want to read reviews on sites OTHER than TripAdvisor – so help them out! Plus, competition can be a good thing.</p>
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<p>I now need to hear from you – the innkeepers. I have a meeting scheduled with senior leadership at TripAdvisor, including CEO Stephen Kaufer, on September 17th at their office in Newton, Massachusetts. This is an opportunity for us to share the legitimate concerns you have with their website and online review system. Our objectives are (at minimum) to be sincerely heard, and (ideally) to cause real changes to those things that knowingly or unknowingly put B&amp;Bs at a disadvantage. I’m asking you to share your thoughts with me. Tell me your stories – the good, bad and ugly – about how TripAdvisor is impacting your business. Tell me what faults you see with their system. Tell me what reasonable changes you think they should make to their web site. <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=xcjO75uKgikkrgGPC2G0oA_3d_3d"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"><strong>Please click here to share your thoughts</strong></a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"> with me; I will read every entry.</p>
<p>If you have any thoughts you’d like to share more publicly, feel free to leave additional comments below <span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">or on the <a href="https://app1.associationsonline.com/amos/paii/index.cfm"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">PAII Forum</a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">. But please don’t bypass the <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=xcjO75uKgikkrgGPC2G0oA_3d_3d"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">online survey</a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">. I already have a list of issues, but would appreciate hearing more. I believe acting on your behalf is an appropriate and natural role for PAII. You can bet this will be a topic of frequent conversation in our community, and that we’ll offer plenty of chances to share and learn about the online review phenomenon at the upcoming <a href="http://www.innkeepingshow.com/"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">Innkeeping Conference &amp; Trade Show</a><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">. We have some great people in our backyard who seem to have mastered the online review game. Step off the sidelines and join the conversation!</p>
<p>Wishing you a bountiful summer,</p>
<p>Jay Karen<br />President &amp; CEO</p>
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